In a recent episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan passionately spoke out against his guest Seth Dillon, in a heated debate concerning the right to abortion.
Over the years, Rogan has developed a reputation for being something of a right-wing culture warrior, his platform a hotbed of misinformation, a megaphone for alt-right media personalities.
That reputation isn’t particularly far from the truth, but Rogan’s political beliefs are a little more complicated than that; when it comes to universal healthcare, income inequality and the right to abortion, Rogan is to the left of many sitting Democrats.
Rogan rarely argues with his guests – he tends to reflect the beliefs of whoever he’s talking to – but occasionally, he will lash out with a strong opinion, to memorable results. In the past, he exposed Candace Owens’ ignorance on the science of climate change, pushed back against Dave Rubin’s childish conception of the free market, and now, highlighted the inherent cruelty of Seth Dillon’s anti-choice stance.
During the podcast, the two discussed the fall of Roe v. Wade, and Dillon expressed his anti-choice views. In response, Rogan argued:
“There’s also women who have been raped, who should not have to f**king carry some rapist’s baby. There’s women who have been sexually assaulted before the age of 14.”
Dillon responded that “there are people who have been born of rape, and are alive right now, and are pro-life and they go around speaking, talking about how ‘I had a right to live’ and they will go out there and make an argument, a pro-life case.”
Rogan then stated: “You don’t have a right to tell a 14-year-old girl, she has to carry a rapist’s baby. Like, you don’t have the right to tell my 14-year-old daughter, she has to carry her rapist’s baby. You understand that?”
For Rogan, the issue was clearly personal, while Dillon argued with the supreme confidence of a person who never has to worry about getting pregnant. After the two repeated their arguments, Dillan said, rather weakly: “I don’t think two wrongs make a right… I don’t think murder fixes a rape.”
Rogan tried to pin down when, exactly, Dillon considered a human life to have formed – Dillon didn’t have a coherent answer, implying that it might be the moment sperm merges with an egg.
Dillon is the CEO of conservative satire website The Babylon Bee, which was suspended from Twitter after misgendering U.S. Assistant Health Secretary Rachel Levine. Dillon has indicated that the account will never delete the tweet; via his own personal Twitter account, Dillon wrote:
“They could, of course, delete the tweet themselves. But they won’t. It’s not enough for them to just wipe it out. They want us to bend the knee and admit that we engaged in hateful conduct.”
Rogan has previously clarified that he is not a supporter of Donald Trump, contrary to popular belief, and that he actually turned down Trump’s requests to appear on The Joe Rogan Experience, because he is “not interested in helping him.”
While Rogan is still dedicating much of his time to platforming right-wing culture warriors, his pro-choice outburst proved that he’s not quite sold on all of their ideas.